Jon Gosselin is providing insight into his relationship with his ex.
The Jon & Kate Plus 8 alum revealed the last time that he spoke to his ex-wife Kate Gosselin—who he finalized his contentious divorce from in 2009—and the date is sure to raise some eyebrows.
“We don’t communicate,” Jon exclusively told E! News’ Francesca Amiker. “I think the last time I heard her voice in person was, like, 2018.”
The DJ—who shares 20-year-old sextuplets Collin, Hannah, Alexis, Aaden, Leah and Joel, as well as 23-year-old twins Mady and Cara, with Kate—went on to note that his last in-person conversation with the matriarch was in court, when the pair were in a custody battle over their son Collin after he accused Kate of verbally and emotionally abusing him as a child. (Jon was awarded custody in the end, though Kate has denied all of Collin’s abuse allegations.)
And while the former couple doesn’t keep in touch these days, Jon—who announced his engagement to Stephanie Lebo in November after three years of dating—insisted that his relationship with his former wife has been in worse shape than it is currently.
“It’s been calm,” Jon added, “very calm, knock on wood, for two years now.”